Posts by The Fall Guy

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Personal Data Permission (Spain)

by paradiseseeker in

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i had the meeting yesterday and there it was announced that there will be a new law passed in spain regarding personal data.

that law makes it compulsory for the wt spanish branch to collect a signed permission from the publishers to keep and utilize personal data.

no choice was given to us, we were just told to make sure we hand in our signed permissions before may 18th.

The Fall Guy

Note very carefully the necessary language which the org had to use in their INSTRUCTIONS FOR USE OF PERSONAL DATA letter to elders:

REQUESTING CONSENT

When inviting an individual to complete the consent form, the elder should explain the purpose of the form

REFUSAL TO CONSENT

An adult publisher might initially refuse to sign the Notice and Consent for Use of Personal Data (S-290) form........ However, the publisher should not feel pressured to sign the form.

"Requesting," "inviting," "consent," & "not feel pressured."

If elders start brow-beating individual/s regarding this, they're asking for trouble. Human Rights are at the core of this.

As I suggested the other day, just say, "I'll take the form and give it some thought."

If approached again, say, "I gave it some thought and decided that it's not something I'd want to do at the moment. If I change my mind, I can get back to you."

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It’s Stupid That JWs Wont Recognize Birthdays Yet If A Baby Is Born They Will Give Gifts!

by minimus in

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a witness can’t celebrate and give gifts on a birthday except on the day they are born.

giving a baby shower is ok as well as gift giving—- but only once!

soooo dumb!.

The Fall Guy

Official WTBTS Dogma:

"The Bible never refers to a servant of God celebrating a birthday. This is not simply an oversight, for it does record two birthday celebrations by those not serving God. However, both of those events are presented in a bad light." (JW.BORG web site)

What the Bible Really Teaches:

Job's sons celebrated the anniversary of their births.

Job 1:4 - "Each of his sons would hold a banquet at his house on his own set day. They would invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them."

Job 3:1 - "It was after this that Job began to speak and to curse the day of his birth."

Genesis 40:20 - "Now the third day was Pharʹaoh’s birthday,

Jer. 20:14 - "Cursed be the day I was born!"

In all four verses, the same Hebrew word (yowm) is used to indicate the day of birth.

If we imitate the WTBTS's reasoning, female J.W.'s should heed the following:

"The Bible never refers to a servant of God wearing eye make-up. This is not simply an oversight, for it does record two occasions when eye make-up was worn by those not serving God. However, both of those events are presented in a bad light."

(2 Kings 9:30) When Jehu came to Jezreel, Jezebel heard of it. So she painted her eyes with black paint....

(Ezekiel 23:40) ....you washed yourself and painted your eyes......

Based on the "faithful slave's" spirit-directed wisdom, eye make-up for women is clearly pagan and should be abhorred just like birthdays.

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2018 Public Talk Outlines!

by Atlantis in

2018-03-27-public talk outlineshttps://we.tl/topagudkg5atlantis!.

The Fall Guy

Thanks Atlantis - keep up your excellent work! It's very much appreciated.

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JW's Blow Their Own Trumpet Each Month

by The Fall Guy in

w06 12/1 p. 27 par.

11 what it means to love our neighbor - “jesus commissioned his followers to preach and to teach and to “make disciples of people of all the nations.” by our participation in this work, we show love for......... neighbor.”.

by recording the number of hours of “love” shown to neighbours each month in their monthly report slip, aren't jw's in reality doing what christ said not to do?.

The Fall Guy

w06 12/1 p. 27 par. 11 What It Means to Love Our Neighbor - “Jesus commissioned his followers to preach and to teach and to “make disciples of people of all the nations.” By our participation in this work, we show love for......... neighbor.”

By recording the number of hours of “love” shown to neighbours each month in their Monthly Report slip, aren't JW's in reality doing what Christ said not to do?

(Matthew 6:1,3,4) “Take care not to practice your righteousness in front of men to be noticed by them; 3 But you, when making gifts of mercy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your gifts of mercy may be in secret. Then your Father who looks on in secret will repay you.

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Brother and friends

by menrov in

so, according to wt doctrine, we are brothers, right?

so, if we are all so-called brothers, that we all have one father, right?

if we are just friends of our creator, then we are not brothers.

The Fall Guy

(Matthew 6:9) “You must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, . . ."

Or were 2nd Class Christians not to pray this way?

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GDPR: help for PIMOs

by Fay Dehr in

we urgently need to offer "resistance strategy" help to pimos who are likely to be harassed by elders seeking their consent for wtbt$ to leech their data.

what questions could pimos ask elders, that elders would be unable to answer?

(thus buying time, because elder would need to "check with branch").

The Fall Guy

"It's not something I'd want to do at this time, but if I change my mind, I'll get back to you."

No discussions about the legalities of the matter.

In other words, you're politely saying 'No.' If they try to press the matter, simply say, "I'm sorry brother, I did say 'no,' but I'll get back to you if I change my mind."

Or.............."I'll take the form and give it some thought." Then, if approached again, "I gave it some thought and decided that it's not something I'd want to do at the moment. If I change my mind, I can get back to you."

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Even LEGO must obey jesus command to keep doing this

by Kevin McFree in

https://youtu.be/vdtwrqvgcv0.

The Fall Guy

Nice to see not only a reversal of truths, but a reversal of the tractor!!

I used to love tractors, but not any more. Now, I'm an ex - tractor fan.

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My search for religion.

by joe134cd in

since leaving the jws i have become more interested in finding out about other faiths.

here are a few of my findings.. lds: i just couldnt get my head around the mental gymnastics i would have to do to understand their doctrines and theology.

i attended their services twice.

The Fall Guy

I stumbled across a debate on YouTube yesterday, the topic being: "Is the Catholic church a force for good in the world?"

The Catholic Church makes the same claim that J.W.'s do - "We are the only true religion & directed by God."

Listen as both of the speakers who are against the motion, put the Catholic Church's "unsavoury" history under the spotlight.

The Catholic "defenders" in the video were like pea-shooters against sledge-hammers.

Not good viewing for faint-hearted Catholics.

Christopher Hitchens - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgaV-3epSEU

Stephen Fry - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G4QoEhFPTI&t=8s

Complete video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBSH2oWVGEs&t=2825s

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I got back from the memorial . . .

by neat blue dog in

it was pretty mundane for the most part, same songs, same outline.

the only new thing they added was the video at the end, where stephen lett speaks to the visitors and commends them for coming and recommends they go to jwdotorg and also start a bible study.

they also showed a bar graph with figures increasing every year for jws, memorial attendance and memorial partakers.

The Fall Guy

:)

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Gruesome details in last night's memorial talk

by purrpurr in

last night's memorial talk in my cong went into graphic gruesome details about the torture of jesus and how the stake killed people.

i mean medical level graphic description!

step by step details of each injury and how it killed!

The Fall Guy

An M.S. in a previous congregation gave a similar description with his Instruction Talk in the Ministry School about 15 years. It was downright stomach-churning!